Selena Gomez Opens Up About the First Time She Met Taylor Swift (Hint: It Involves the Jonas Brothers)

People obsess over celebrity couples—hello Taylor and Travis—but let’s not forget the equal (if not greater) love the internet has for celebrity besties. Iconic duos like Jennifer Aniston and Courteney Cox, Snoop Dogg and Martha Stewart and Ben Affleck and Matt Damon have all earned their place in the BFF hall of fame. But one friendship that consistently sends fans into full-on heart-eyes mode? Taylor Swift and Selena Gomez.

Now, thanks to Selena’s recent appearance on the Therapuss with Jake Shane podcast, we finally got the adorable backstory on how these two became inseparable.

“Taylor [Swift] and I dated the Jonas Brothers,” the Only Murders in the Building star said on the August 7 episode, which—pause for early 2000s flashbacks—reminds me this friendship was born at the height of Disney Channel-era chaos.

“I dated Nick and she dated Joe," she continued. "And everything was, it was cute, we were young. We all know and love each other now and it’s so cute. We don’t know what we were doing. She and I like to say the best thing we got out of those relationships was each other because it was really sweet.”

She also painted the full Y2K picture, recalling how she was 15 and Taylor was around 18 at the time. “It was the crazy curly Taylor and she had all these bracelets that went all the way up.”

Selena added that their bond forged in the flames of teen heartbreak. “We bonded over the breakup, as girls do,” Selena said. “And then we just stuck around for all the ups and downs that came after and here we are now 16 years later.”

Most recently, Selena shared a few snaps from her 33rd birthday party and yes, there was Taylor, balloons in the background, standing proudly by her bestie.

And she’s not just talking the talk when it comes to their friendship—she’s posting the proof too. Selena recently shared a few snapshots from her 33rd birthday party and yep, Taylor was right there celebrating with her.

In one sweet pic, Selena’s reaching toward the camera with a big smile, surrounded by balloons, with Taylor by her side.

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