‘The Handmaid’s Tale’ Star Ann Dowd Reveals What Aunt Lydia Really Thinks of June

*Warning: Spoilers ahead*

If you’ve ever seen an episode of The Handmaid’s Tale, then you know that Aunt Lydia (Ann Dowd) and June (Elisabeth Moss) have a complicated relationship. In fact, their never-ending power struggle has become even more convoluted this season. Well, thanks to Dowd, we now know what Aunt Lydia really thinks of June.

The award-winning actress spoke with Bustle about her character’s relationship with our favorite rebellious Handmaid, saying, “I think she and June connect in a very truthful way, and they can’t even help themselves. That’s the nature of their relationship.”

Dowd went on to explain that although tensions arose between Lydia and June in episode eight, she hopes they’ll continue their upward trajectory.

“My hope is that the intimacy between them, of which they are both capable, sustains over time, that it actually triumphs, that something happens that solidifies what is good in the relationship,” Dowd said.

Ultimately, Dowd knows that they’re not the most likely of allies, but she thinks they may find value in their bond. She explained, “They’re constantly at odds, because of course June is a rebel and June is strong and June is very smart, and Lydia can’t quite read her…On the other hand, Lydia I think admires her strength, and intelligence, and her endurance, and her stamina. So I hope that happens, meaning I hope that relationship can stand the test of time.”

So do we, Anne. So do we.